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Second deceptive paragraph suggests article is worthless [ edit ]

"According to churches that consider the decisions of ecumenical councils final, Trinitarianism was definitively declared to be Christian doctrine at the 4th-century ecumenical councils,[1][2][3] that of the First Council of Nicaea (325), which declared the full divinity of the Son,[4] and the First Council of Constantinople (381), which declared the divinity of the Holy Spirit.[5]"

This first line should read something more like...

"According to churches that consider the decisions of (the schism filled and largely ignored) ecumenical councils final, Trinitarianism was definitively declared..."

As it is this paragraph is very deceptive in its suggestion that the Trinity has some official stamp of approval. When in fact many of these councils annulled and where themselves annulled by other councils, and it was the false Christian Roman Emperor Constantine I who called for this First Council of Nicaea, to basically demand for the trinity.

You should not have such a slanted second paragraph so deceptively supporting the trinity in the nontrinitarian article. 50.70.226.21 (talk) 01:17, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

• John 1:1 section slanted [ edit ]

The mention of Greek theos without the mention of theon is also deceptive. There is a completely different word used at this verse and to hide that is to suggest that nontrinitarians are just misinterpreting theos.

https://www.google.ca/search?client=opera&q=John+1%3A1+Theos+Theon

50.70.226.21 (talk) 01:25, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Greek θεον is the accusative form corresponding to nominative θεος according to ordinary principles of Greek case inflection. These are not at all "separate words" in the sense that they would be given separate entities in a normal type of dictionary... AnonMoos (talk) 07:37, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Merger Proposal [ edit ]

Why is this a separate article from Unitarianism? 110.174.77.204 (talk) 15:32, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

Unitarianism is a type of nontrinitarianism but not all nontrinitarians are Unitarians. Jasoninkid (talk) 01:33, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Modern Christian groups [ edit ]

The paragraph on Oneness Pentecostalism mentions that The paragraph on Oneness Pentecostals are often revered to as "Modalists" or "Sabellians" or "Jesus Only" but omits the fact that the terms are often conceded derogatory among Oneness Pentecostals. The term “Apostolic” which is a common way Oneness Pentecostals refer to themselves is missing from the list. Jasoninkid (talk) 01:40, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Martin Luther citation [ edit ]

The citation to Luther's sermon does not directly support the facts asserted by the article, and furthermore a sermon like this is a WP:PRIMARY source, which shouldn't really be used as a citation in this context, at all. I have added maintenance tags, looks kinda ugly on the lede section. Elizium23 (talk) 07:30, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

I would agree, this appears to be WP:OR from a primary source. Since it's a relatively recent addition (less than two weeks ago) I'm going to remove it from the lede. If anyone thinks it should stay, let's discuss here. --FyzixFighter (talk) 19:11, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Restorationist [ edit ]

Adding a link or saying some groups are under the Restoration Movement on this page.Apha9 (talk) 04:41, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

What is this?